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April 4, 2008 12:05 PM

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senorsenor

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Hi 2 everyone !

Bought a Topfield 7700HDPVR recently to record HD movies & SD movies with 5.1 sound. This device creates *.rec files (is equal to *.ts i learned last weeks...), but i can´t play them on my EVA8000.

It starts fine, after some seconds (approx. 20) sound gets lost, after another 10 secs or so the picture starts to stutter & after some more seconds the EVA reboots....

Anyone any idea ? Read something about bitrate the EVA can probably not handle, but i don´t know what is the max. bitrate & could this be my problem ?

KR

senorsenor

EVA 8000 connected to ACTIVY Media Server 150 (3TB) & ACTIVY Media Center 570 TopField 7700HDPVR (500GB)
Philips 42" PLASMA Display (HDMI)
YAMAHA Soundprojector (HDMI)

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pardizzone Avatar
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April 4, 2008 12:39 PM

Download MediaInfo from here and open the file with it. On the view menu, change the output to text and post the output so we can see if it's just too high of a bitrate. Also, a lot of PVRs create files have errors in them that the unit it's recorded on can handle but will cause havoc with other devices (like the EVA8000). You can use a tool such as PVAStrumento to reencode the file from MPEG-TS to MPEG-2 without losing much quality if it is errors in the file causing the problem.

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April 4, 2008 12:53 PM

Thanks for the fast answer, here is the output of mediainfo (film was on PREMIERE HD):

General #0
ID                           : 1
Complete name                : I:\CinePlexx-HD\Test\part1.ts
Format                       : BluRay Video
Format/Family                : MPEG-2
File size                    : 1.52 GiB

Video #0
ID                           : 4113 (0x1011)
MenuID                       : 1 (0x1)
Codec                        : AVC
Codec/Family                 : AVC
Codec/Info                   : MPEG-4 AVC
Codec profile                : Main@L4.0
Codec settings, CABAC        : Yes
Width                        : 1920 pixels
Height                       : 1088 pixels
Display Aspect ratio         : 16/9
Frame rate                   : 25.000 fps
Chroma                       : 4:2:0

Audio #0
ID                           : 4352 (0x1100)
MenuID                       : 1 (0x1)
Codec                        : AC3
Bit rate mode                : CBR
Bit rate                     : 448 Kbps
Channel(s)                   : 2 channels
Channel positions            : L R
Sampling rate                : 48.0 KHz
Video0 delay                 : -989ms

Audio #1
ID                           : 4353 (0x1101)
MenuID                       : 1 (0x1)
Codec                        : AC3
Bit rate mode                : CBR
Bit rate                     : 448 Kbps
Channel(s)                   : 6 channels
Channel positions            : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                : 48.0 KHz
Video0 delay                 : -954ms

BG

senorsenor

EVA 8000 connected to ACTIVY Media Server 150 (3TB) & ACTIVY Media Center 570 TopField 7700HDPVR (500GB)
Philips 42" PLASMA Display (HDMI)
YAMAHA Soundprojector (HDMI)

pardizzone Avatar
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April 4, 2008 1:07 PM

Looks some info is missing as I don't see the bitrate for the video section listed. Does it list what the bitrate of the file is?

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pardizzone Avatar
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April 4, 2008 1:12 PM

Here's an example of a TS file I have (this won't play on the EVA8000), note the line in red:

General #0
Complete name        : W:\Video\Movies\gladiator.bev.1080i.dd5.1.nfn.ts
Format               : MPEG-2 Transport
Format/Family        : MPEG-2
File size            : 19.4 GiB
PlayTime             : 2h 28mn
Bit rate             : 19 Mbps

Video #0
Codec                : MPEG-2 Video
Codec profile        : Main@High
Codec settings/Matri : Custom
PlayTime             : 2h 28mn
Bit rate             : 45 Mbps
Bit rate mode        : CBR
Width                : 1920 pixels
Height               : 1080 pixels
Aspect ratio         : 16/9
Frame rate           : 29.970 fps
Standard             : Composite
Chroma               : 4:2:0
Interlacement        : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)   : 0.724

Audio #0
Codec                : AC3
Bit rate             : 384 Kbps
Bit rate mode        : CBR
Channel(s)           : 6 channels
Channel positions    : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, Subwoofer
Sampling rate        : 48 KHz

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April 4, 2008 2:20 PM

just done it again - same result:

General #0
ID                           : 1
Complete name                : F:\Casino Royale - HD\casino_royale_1.ts
Format                       : MPEG-4 Transport
Format/Family                : MPEG-4
File size                    : 1.49 GiB

Video #0
ID                           : 4113 (0x1011)
MenuID                       : 1 (0x1)
Codec                        : AVC
Codec/Family                 : AVC
Codec/Info                   : MPEG-4 AVC
Codec profile                : Main@L4.0
Codec settings, CABAC        : Yes
Width                        : 1920 pixels
Height                       : 1088 pixels
Display Aspect ratio         : 16/9
Frame rate                   : 25.000 fps
Chroma                       : 4:2:0

Audio #0
ID                           : 4352 (0x1100)
MenuID                       : 1 (0x1)
Codec                        : AC3
Bit rate mode                : CBR
Bit rate                     : 448 Kbps
Channel(s)                   : 2 channels
Channel positions            : L R
Sampling rate                : 48.0 KHz
Video0 delay                 : -989ms

Audio #1
ID                           : 4353 (0x1101)
MenuID                       : 1 (0x1)
Codec                        : AC3
Bit rate mode                : CBR
Bit rate                     : 448 Kbps
Channel(s)                   : 6 channels
Channel positions            : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                : 48.0 KHz
Video0 delay                 : -954ms

BG

senorsenor

EVA 8000 connected to ACTIVY Media Server 150 (3TB) & ACTIVY Media Center 570 TopField 7700HDPVR (500GB)
Philips 42" PLASMA Display (HDMI)
YAMAHA Soundprojector (HDMI)

pardizzone Avatar
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April 4, 2008 2:30 PM

Most likely the bitrate is too high. The EVA seems to choke on anything over 12Mbps and PVRs will usually create a file over 18Mbps. You can try to run it through the utility I posted above and see if it will play after that as it will clear up any errors if the file contains them. If that doesn't work, you will need to reencode them to something the EVA likes.

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April 4, 2008 2:34 PM

Ok pardizzone, gonna try it tomorrow & keep you informed.

Thanks a lot !

senorsenor

EVA 8000 connected to ACTIVY Media Server 150 (3TB) & ACTIVY Media Center 570 TopField 7700HDPVR (500GB)
Philips 42" PLASMA Display (HDMI)
YAMAHA Soundprojector (HDMI)

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